English Conversation: Travel plan旅行の計画(英語)【海外旅行】

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Part 1

Yeah, so what is the plan, roughly?

Roughly? 

Yeah, for now. So we are going to England, at first?

This year there for a few days, yeah.

And then?

And then, well there’s a couple of options, I think. The big thing is the weather. So it depends on what time we get away because it’s starting to get cooler.

So it would be nice in a way to go to visit my nephew, John, in Munich before going to Turkey, but if not, then, maybe we can just get a cheap flight from London to Istanbul, spend a bit of time…

But, at the time, it will be Octoberfest or something, beer festivals? 

Yeah, exactly. Oktoberfest finishes on October the third, I think.

So, maybe it’s not the best time. I definitely don’t…, it’s definitely not a good idea for us to go during Octoberfest. It’s like full of tourists, awful. 

No, no, I don’t think so. 

No. So yeah, so there maybe it’s better just to fly…, I know John is really keen for us to go and see him in Munich. He sent another message today, saying…

Oh, really? After England?

Well, he said, “I hope you can come sometime during the year off to Munich.” 

Yeah, yeah, we can come back to Europe.

Yeah, of course. And he was saying about how he went to this whiskey distillery on a bus with a load of mates yesterday, which is just outside and it was very nice and he’d like to take us there and of course, there’s lots of really nice beer in Munich like really really good places like I enjoyed it when I went there last time. 

Yeah?

It’s good, was a really good beer. Anyway, so maybe we’ll put Munich back a bit so then fly into Istanbul there are lots of cheap flights, I think, probably with Pegasus airlines probably from Stansted which is the airport which is close to where my brother and his wife live. It’s a half hour away from Cambridge, yeah, so we could fly, we could probably fly with them Pegasus they’re like they’re not so expensive. 

Is that a low-cost carrier?

It’s, yeah, kind of. It’s not a super low-cost carrier, and it’s not completely crazy, so you can take a carry-on, and, I think, I actually think for a lot of the cheap tickets they still let.., you can still check a bag. Anyway, we’re not gonna have a bag to check.

No.

So we, yeah, flying to Istanbul and spend a bit of time there. Then, I looked to take one of the Turkish high-speed trains to yeah Konya, which is a few hours away, which is a very conservative city, which I visited a couple of times, and in fact, I was lucky to have been there in December twenty five years ago, and there were absolutely no tourists there then, but it’s a very famous time of the year. It’s only three days of the year at that time. There were only three days of the year where the Mevlana performed whirling dervish is performed.

What’s that? Is that a festival?

These are…, these are like, dervish people who wear long flowing robes and they spin and they get themselves into a trance.

Oh…

Anyway, it’s quite…, it’s anyway, Konya is a very conservative city, but they’ve got some interesting things to see there, maybe from there, we can take a bus or train down to the Mediterranean, just the end bit of the Mediterranean, which is gonna be in a place maybe called Silifke, and then, go to visit Kızkalesi, which is Maiden’s castle in English, which is a castle in the sea. 

Yeah.

Maybe, if we were there we could still go swimming, I think, it will still be warm enough to go swimming there, in that part of the Mediterranean. Yeah, and then, maybe go a little bit further along the coast and inland a bit to the city called Adana, which is turkey’s fourth biggest city. That’s where my brother used to live and his, I believe, his old mate is still there, Alpaslan bey, and maybe contact him. In fact, in Istanbul maybe contact his sons, ‘cause I think one of his sons lives in Istanbul. So it could be kind of fun.

In fact, I was supposed to, about ten years ago, I was supposed to be going to Afghanistan from Georgia for work, and I was supposed to stop in Istanbul and I was going to visit, I was gonna, I actually got in contact so I was gonna visit Babaz, who’s this guy’s name, so maybe contact them.

And then, up to maybe Cappadocia across to Kayseri, and then take the train to the eastern part of Turkey, visit a town called Ani which is a ruined city on the Armenian border. Years ago that when I first went there that was on the other side, it was the soviet union, now is Armenia, which was still I mean it was Armenia then, but it’s no longer the soviet union, and then, maybe going from there going to Georgia, maybe into Armenia for a couple of days.

Yeah.

Although, the weather is the factor. It’s not the best time of the year to go there. You can’t do those things.

Can be too cold?

Well, the weather, I think, like you can’t go into the mountains very easily, maybe, but like in this…, in the towns, it should be should be okay.

Okay.

So, that could be…, that could be a start of the trip some ideas, depends on the weather and how we feel.

Yeah. And you think we may go back to the Gulf?

It may be, try and go to, yeah, maybe try and go to Oman, I was looking at different flight options and things. I think, maybe try and go and see my sister. You’ve been to Oman before but I have not. So would you like to go again? 

Yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah….

It’s really, what’s really bad about it is very expensive to get to. It’s only like an hour from Dubai to get to Oman. yeah

To get to Oman? Oh yeah? But I took a bus from Dubai. 

Well, I’m not sure the bus running at the moment because of Covid.

Oh, ok.

That’s what I was going that’s what I was gonna say, we just get a flight to Dubai because from Armenia, Wizz Air which is a low-cost carrier flies from Yerevan which is the capital of Armenia to Dubai. So there are some…

Yeah?

Obviously, I’ve been looking at all different other options, you know, like there’s also possible flights into Beirut, but they’re really expensive from Armenia, anyway, there are so many things. It’s a bit of a nuisance having to fly, but anyway, that could be a good start.

Yeah.

Munich：ミュンヘン

Istanbul：イスタンブール

Oktoberfest: ドイツ、バイエルン州の州都ミュンヘンで開催される世界最大規模の祭り

distillery：蒸留所

mates：仲間

Pegasus airlines：ペガサス航空（トルコの格安航空会社）

Stansted：ロンドン・スタンステッド空港

Cambridge：ケンブリッジ

a carry-on：a carry-on bag のこと。機内持ち込み荷物

Konya：コンヤ、トルコ内陸の都市

Mevlana whirling：宗教的パフォーマンスの一種

dervish：デルビッシュ、イスラム教の修道僧

Mediterranean：地中海

Silifke：シリフケ、トルコの都市

Kızkalesi：クズカレジ、トルコにある町の名前

Maiden’s castle：Kızkalesiの城の英語名

Adana：アダナ、トルコ中南部の都市

Alpaslan bey：Alpaslanはトルコ人の名前（「山のライオン」という意味）、「bey（ベイ）」はトルコ語の敬称）

Cappadocia：カッパドキア、トルコ中央部の都市

Kayseri：カイセリ、トルコ中央部の都市

Ani：アニ、トルコとアルメニアの国境にある、シルクロードの商業都市

Armenian：アルメニア

the Gulf：ペルシャ湾

Oman：オマーン

Dubai：ドバイ

Wizz Air：ウィズエアー、ハンガリーの航空会社

Yerevan：エレバン、アルメニアの首都

Beirut：ベイルート、レバノンの首都

nuisance：迷惑、煩わしいもの

Part 2

And then,

And then see how time is. And I think the big thing is, like, the situation or the situation is with our…, health insurance card, etc.

Oh, yeah, of course. 

That’s kind of a factor. 

Yeah.

Because if not, not, then maybe we just fly to we just go to Southeast Asia. 

Yeah, 

Maybe.

Yeah. 

The other interesting thing is I don’t know if you know, but Scoot Air, remember we took Scoot Air? We took them from Bangkok to Osaka one time, didn’t we? Christmas time or New Year.

Yeah.

They fly from Athens to Singapore, 400 Canadien dollars on way. 

Really? It’s quite far, isn’t it?

Yeah. Yeah, eleven hours or something. 

Oh yeah?

Yeah, I’m not sure about that. I mean, if we’re in the Gulf and it’d be easy to fly from Dubai to Bangkok or, you know, the other thing I was thinking, which could be fun, we could also go to India and then to Nepal, because you got loads of cheap flights to India and Nepal because there are all the migrant workers in the Gulf. 

But in Nepal it will be cold, isn’t it?

Yeah. Like November time is quite cold, but the days are beautiful, in terms of clarity for the views. October, November, December. I think it’s beautiful, but yeah, cooler. 

Cooler?

Yeah. 

Not cold?

Hum…

Hum…

Yeah, India. It’s a good time to go to India. The weather in India is very nice. Most parts of India at that time is very nice. Apart from…, actually, it’s not true. Up in the north, like around Delhi, is not great because it gets all smoggy and chilly in there, but, lots of India is very good. I’ve been to India in December before January, and it’s very nice.

And you said, I think, you said about Bangladesh as well. 

Yeah. Bangladesh could be interesting. I quite like the idea of going to Bangladesh again. 

Yeah? Did you research? Is it complicated to get in?

I can’t remember the old visa thing. I think you can get a visa and arrival. 

Oh, yeah?

I think so. I like Bangladesh. People are really friendly. And it’s kind of more relaxed in India, I found it. 

Yeah. India is a big country, isn’t it?

Yes, huge, it’s on a continent. Yeah. We could see how we go. Yeah, we could see. It’d be nice just to be able to decide as we go along. Not too many plans. The only risky part is obviously the start of the trip is quite cold. The weather is like autumn in most of those countries, which means it’s not necessarily going to be that warm. And of course, we won’t be travelling with a lot of clothes, anyway, we can see.

Is there any possibility to go back to Europe? Not only Germany. 

Oh, next year, you mean? You mean this year or next year? 

This year or next year. During the week.., sorry, during the year?

Yeah, definitely. But the only thing is, at the moment, it’s not a great time travelling Europe in November. 

Yeah, I know.

It’s cold and wet. 

I know. I’m not meaning that. 

I think so. Yeah, I think that would be a good thing to do. I think the best time to go there is kind of like, probably…

Spring?

May June time, yeah, just before people start taking their holidays, and before it gets really busy. 

Yeah. 

Yeah, definitely. 

Yeah. 

How about Israel? Or is it boring? 

No, I’ve never been there, so I can’t recall. 

Oh, really? You have never thought?

Yeah, I’m not completely convinced that I want to go. 

Oh, really? 

Yeah. I’d like to go pretty much everywhere. Yeah, I would like to go in a way, but just some parts, like a political thing. I’m not really that happy about it. 

Oh, yeah, sure. 

So there are lots of options.

Yeah. And have you ever thought about money? 

Money?

Yeah. Do you have any…?

God, yeah. We have to be careful about money…,

Budget, or… how do we deal with the…

How do you, how do we…?

I don’t know. That’s the…, because a year is long, and in some countries or places, you must have some cash with us. 

Yeah, definitely. …I mean, how much budget or cash do we take with us, or how much money do we need for the year? What do you mean?

Yeah, what do you think about the budget? How much money do you want to spend per day? 

How much money do you want to spend?

Depends on where we go. I don’t know, it depends on how much or how often, and how we travel.

Yeah. Well, I think we normally travel in a way which is kind of more or less the most economical, which is not crazy and staying in okay places. Of course, if you spend all the time in Southeast Asia, then you’re going to spend less money than if you go to lots of other parts of the world, like Europe, for example, much more expensive.

So maybe that’s an opportunity for you to do a little bit of research in terms of identifying how much you think it costs to go to some of these places. I have an idea about how much it costs to go to most of the places. 

Yeah? 

More or less.

Yeah.

Well, like turkey, for example. You can get good rooms for $30, $40. Yeah. For less than that, probably. Yeah.

I think Asia southeast Asia is kind of the cheapest, isn’t it? I don’t know about South America. 

South America is not especially cheap. Argentina is reasonable at the moment because their currency is in a mess, but at the moment, I’m sure they’re going to adjust that. But, yeah, South America is not really, not cheap. Cheap like Asia, Southeast Asia or even North Asia.

Europe is not cheap either…

Europe is the most expensive part. 

I remember, Oman, it was not cheap at all. 

No, it won’t be. 

Not planning to go to a month for a long time. No,I don’t think we have to spend any money on accommodation. 

No.

So, we got to go to Japan as well, once it gets opened. 

Yeah. If they open. 

Yeah. So that can affect the trip, because maybe we’ll be in Turkey and they say, oh, yeah, Japan is open, and maybe we go to Japan. 

Yeah, possible. 

Yeah. But the other thing is, the other thing that I’ve got is we’ve got points on Aeroplan, we’ve got points on Delta, which is Delta, KLM, Air France. So we got Star Alliance, we got the one Team… uh, Sky Team, and then we’ve got British Airways executive, which is another thing. So we’ve got points on all of those things. Got 200,000 Aeroplan, I think, I’ve got 180,000 on the British Airways one, which… whatever that alliance is called, can’t remember what was called. And then Sky Team, we’ve got 90,000, so we can use some of those sometimes. 

Yeah, for flights.

Yeah. 

Yeah, that’s good.

Scoot Air：スクート、シンガポールの格安航空会社

Athens：アテネ

Nepal：ネパール

Delhi：デリー

convinced：確信している

Argentina：アルゼンチン

Delta, KLM, Air France, British Airways：いずれも航空会社の名前

Star Alliance：スターアライアンス、航空連合

Sky Team：スカイチーム、航空連合